Hs20EXR Vs s5700
Fuji s5700 ISO 64 @ f3.5 – 1/40sec Ev 0.33 & Fl 63mm Standard Film Simulation. |
Fuji s5700 – Same settings as above but Film Simulation = Chrome Cropped. |
Fuji s5700 – Chrome film simulation ISO 64 @ f5 & 1/280 sec Ev 0.33 |
Fuji HS20EXR – ISO 200 @ f5 & 1/80sec Ev 0.00 Standard (Provia) Film Simulation EXR RES Priority mode @ 8 mp. 77mm F.L. |
Fuji HS20EXR – ISO 200 @ f5 & 1/60sec Ev 0.00 Astia film simulation EXR Res Priority Mode @ 8 mp 41mm F.L |
Fuji HS20EXR – ISO 200 @ f5.6 & 1/250sec Ev 0.00 Astia film simulation EXR Res Priority Mode @ 8 mp 56.7mm F.L |
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Hi Julius
I still have my 5700 and still use it from time to time.
Its good for family snapshots when you only want something small in the travel bags.
The s5700 was on of the real success stories of the smaller bridge like compacts. It wasn’t much good over ISO400 but it was a pretty handy tool none the less, and I agree, for a 7.1mp camera it had pretty good image quality.Stick with the HS20 though. Its a much more versatile camera and can do a lot more than the s5700, but it requires a greater knowledge/skill level of photography, so for some folks its a really big learning curve to getting the best out of the HS20.
If you want some comparisons have a look at the bigger groups of HS10/20/30 users on Flickr.
Theres a link to one of my groups on the Links page.Have fun
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JuliusJuly 2, 2012 12:20 AM
Hi Ralph,
I know HS20 is a great camera (or at least i really hope so :))), but i only have a few keepers for now and it seems that HS20 respons is totally different than S5700. I was using S5700 for about 4-5 years now, exclusively in manual mode, with excelent results for a 120 euro (camera, bag, 4 acc, charger, 4 gb SD) and i was (and still am) surprised that a 400 euro camera produce such a mediocre quality photos…
The biggest problem i have right now is the low contrast photos in landscape photography (something like a fog all over, resulting washed colours). Yesterday i was on a walk with my HS20 and i start to make photos with every settings available, just to see if this camera can produce any good quality photos. And YES, i have some nice contrast and detailed photos. Too bad i didn’t writed down what settings i used for every photos. :)) But it doesn’t matter, i will do it again as soon as possible.
Macro mode is excelent, indoor it’s ok too, but i am really dissaponted by the results of landscape or “in town” photography.
By the way, any good advices for landscape? simulation/tone/color/sharpness/NR? I usually use vivia/astia/tone normal/color normal (or low in some cases)/sharpness normal and noise reduction low.
Please allow me to say: what a wonderfull blog you have here! Very good and detailed information. Congratulations.
Cheers
Iulian
… The bottom line is that 10x optical zoom is worthless except for macro shots.
… The HS20 is an amazing camera, accepting the compromises for a 30x optical zoom for $500.
… Zoom is everything. Without serious zoom, you are just taking pictures, not photography.
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I went from the S5700 to the HS10. At the time it was one of the better bridge camera’s. Took some great images with it.
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I hear you Iain. For me the manual zoom was the killer part of the HS10. You just cant walk away from a camera that can do that, as a lot of my shooting is well into the zoom range of the HS series cameras.
Cheers Anon..
The s5700 even blows he pants of my wife’s later model the s1000fd which I consider to be a complete dud.
Cheers
Ralph
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Dear Ralph
Bought myself a HS20 as a replacement for my old and trusty Lumix FZ20. I’m a total amatuer when it came to photography but was looking for a camera to stretch me a bit. Came across your site when googling for HS20 and basically your blog in my opinion is the HS20 “user manual”. Keep up the great work and thanks for all the advice.
Craig
Whitburn, Scotland
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Cheers Craig , Glad I was able to help. Let us know how you get on with it.
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The HS20 surely shines when it comes to the dynamic range, impressive, I’ll stick with my HS10 for now and endure the low light noise.
Thanks for your very informative and detailed posts on the HS20.
James
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I’ve gone from the S5600 to the S200EXR. The S5600 was amazingly good value for money, although only 5MP. The S200EXR was an improvement, although the EXR sensor tends to blur distant foliage. I’m not sure whether this has improved with the HS20?
I’ve been curious about the HS20, but a bit concerned about the small sensor size. I’m worried tiny pixels mean photosites will saturate more quickly meaning EXR DR mode is more likely to become a necessity rather than a nice feature for difficult lighting conditions. The HS20 uses similar EXR technology to the S200EXR, but with a CMOS rather than CCD sensor, and quite a bit smaller, and also with a much bigger zoom range, I wonder how these two compare? I mostly take landscapes, so the 14.4x zoom of the S200EXR is more than adequate for me most of the time, but I want all the image detail I can get.
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Howdy C. Cookson
To date I have found that using the HS20 in EXR Auto or Dynamic Range priority doesn’t seem to give that much extra in terms of shadow/highlight gains. It is good at holding the image even when shooting directly sun-ward. I generally stay away from DR Priority or the other Automated EXR modes as I dont think there’s that much of a gain image wise and shooting at 16mp certainly improves the detail even when viewed at 100%, and the sensor is actually fairly quiet.
I have just done a series of photos using both EXR Auto and EXR Dynamic range. There was a little less PP required in the DR Range mode but basically I wasnt seeing too much difference between the two modes.
I will be posting my finding in the next day or so.
Cheers
Ralph
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i went from a hs10 to a hs20
by & large i’ve found the hs20 to be better
i haven’t noticed that much between the images (although the 20 has the edge) except i haven’t yet managed a shot of the moon as good as i did with the hs10 & also the hs20 sseems to make more CA with my TC than the hs10
but a moon shot doesn’t make a perfect camera & for other pix i prefer the 20
one area the 20 scores very high against the 10 is features & use, the screen is better, there’s more modes, more things you can change (eg noise reduction level) & the whole menu experience is smoother with a prettier UI !!
not the most scientific of comparisons but my hs20 shots have scored WAY more flcikr views than my 10 – that’s the same type of shots posted in the same groups
there’s been a lot of fuji hs20 bashing on certain forums & i HAVE to say that one must align one’s expectation when buying a COMPACT camera – it’s not a DSLR, that’s why a whole fuji camera with 30x (720mm) zoom costs about the same as 300mm dslr lens**
the most annoying thing i find with the hs20 reviews is that people (quite accurately) write “IQ lacking at 100% crop = totally unacceptable”
but then they review a camera like the fz100 & they write “of cousre this type of camera wont make great 100% crop pix”
i don’t understand why the fuji cannot be forgiven like the panasonic can
at the end of the day, the hs20 looks the part (unlike the non-manual lens supersooms) & has the best feature set, whilst being one of the cheapest bridge cams
Cheers
Adam
** if you want a ‘nearly-as-good-as-a-dlsr’ in a compact buy a LX5/EX1/ZX1 but it’ll cost the more than a hs20 & only have about 15% of the zoom
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Dear Ralph
Thanks very much for such a informative site. I have just upgraded from a S5600 to the HS20. I was a bit hesitant about the Hs20 since there seems to be quite a bit of “hs20 bashing” on the web.
It seems that your writings are somewhat more considered and logical than other sites
Thanks again
Stefan
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Hi Stefan
Glad you have found it useful. I think most of the bad press surrounding the HS20 is to do with its video quality or lack thereof. Not totally unjustifiable either, although I dont buy a stills camera for its video qualities.
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I have an HS20 since 2 months, but i didn’t have some free time to work with it, until a few days ago. I upgraded to Hs20 from S5700 (i had this one since 2007 i think and i was really enjoin’ it) . Until now i still prefere S5700. What a great camera! I don’t know why, but i don’t have the same contrast/details/noise level with the new HS20 as i had with S5700.
I am hoping that my impressions will change in time, but until now if S5700 have a 10/10, HS20 should have a 6/10.(i am not talking about zoom, just image quality)
(sorry for my english, i am not a native english speaker)
Best regards
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